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FyrFytr998 · Nov 27, 2009, 06:08 AM // 06:08

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Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Sure... I can't SC. I can win high ranking GvGs... but mashing 1-2-3 to perma is beyond my comprehension.

People who want to nerf SCs know it is for your own good. We understand economics and know it is for your own good. SCs actually make people poorer, because if you don't grind via SCs or farming, you are crippled.

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Originally Posted by upier

Come on, we've been through this before.
You are ONLY crippled if you decide to participate in the high-end market with it's insanely limited supply. But then again - it's probably the insanely limited supply that is crippling you even more.

If you have more gold you are able to buy more items that have a set price.
And in GW, that's pretty much the majority of items.

^^^This^^^

Can an e-peen actually be measured, lol.

MisterT69 · Nov 27, 2009, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by FyrFytr998

^^^This^^^

Can an e-peen actually be measured, lol.

rumor has it if you add all the "high-end" GW players' e-peens together, the length can reach from here to the moon & back :O

As for price of ectos: hopefully around 10-15k :P The SC guys will ironically profit off an SF nerf as we have amassed our ecto supply from SF and with a nerf we can all sell our ecto for big $$, and to top that off, with all the ectos now sent back into circulation, the prices will go back down, and the elitists will still be bitching about "wtb moar nerf s0 mah sh1t w1ll b3 w0rt|-| [email protected]" That seems to be the biggest problem with GW: when your e-peen gets too big, nothing can truly "satisfy" you ;P

Azure Requiem · Nov 27, 2009, 06:44 AM // 06:44

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Originally Posted by MisterT69

As for price of ectos: hopefully around 10-15k :P T

It is doubtful ectos will ever be that pricey again. Unless UW becomes a barren wasteland devoid of anyone playing it. Ectos were that pricey back in the day due to multiple factors, all of which are pretty much bypassed now.

Game was still young groups were still learning best ways to deal with uw. People know UW inside and out now.

High demand with low supply. Favor was limited throughout the day based on HoH wins which limited times that you could even enter UW/FoW. Which further limited the supply (since you couldn't region hop infinitely, had like 6 region changes till you were stuck in one).

With high supply and little demand that actually removes ectos from circulation (probably more ectos hoarded than iron ingots in game, yes its an exaggeration

) and passage scrolls letting people enter whenever they want, ectos are not likely to do any substantial jump save for a spike from the panic that will drop off within a week or two.

Arduin · Nov 27, 2009, 11:28 AM // 11:28

^

Yet with Protective Bond, Monks were able to farm ecto like mad back in the days. I'd say that build even trumped SF for efficiency.

bitchbar player · Nov 27, 2009, 12:35 PM // 12:35

prot bond was nice, espacially since you didnt need an elite to solo uw, no dying nightmares and no aoe scatter however, you where kinda limited to farming aatxs and smites.

superraptors · Nov 27, 2009, 02:13 PM // 14:13

7k-9k an ecto sounds fair

Im in SPAMADAN · Nov 28, 2009, 06:11 AM // 06:11

After SF gets nerfed will dhuum and smitecrawlers minpet rise in price?? If so, by how much

Or will someone discover a new build and the minis slowly keep dropping in market price

Also is droprate for dhuum same as ghostly hero??

Axeman002 · Nov 28, 2009, 10:44 AM // 10:44

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Originally Posted by Im in SPAMADAN

After SF gets nerfed will dhuum and smitecrawlers minpet rise in price?? If so, by how much

Or will someone discover a new build and the minis slowly keep dropping in market price

Also is droprate for dhuum same as ghostly hero??

no different to Mallyx...just they are new, so they will always drop in price as there is always gonna be new ones being dropped from end chest.

the reason panda's/etc are still mega bucks is there is only a set ammount in game..and even less undedicated ones.

Malice Black · Nov 28, 2009, 12:20 PM // 12:20

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Originally Posted by Im in SPAMADAN

After SF gets nerfed will dhuum and smitecrawlers minpet rise in price?? If so, by how much

Or will someone discover a new build and the minis slowly keep dropping in market price

Also is droprate for dhuum same as ghostly hero??

Anything that is farmable will ALWAYS drop in price. So, those spending 600e on a Smite are just throwing their money away.

Hence, why smart people only buy new stuff to re-sell. If you buy to keep new items, you'll be leaking cash daily.

Pro tip of the day: If you bought to keep, dedicate it and sell it on. If not kiss goodbye to 400e+ as these mini's will fall in price within the space of a few months.

IlikeGW · Nov 28, 2009, 05:59 PM // 17:59

I seriously doubt they're nerfing all farming skills. It's probably just something to say to comfort the permas, then they'll never get around to it. But for years they've been saying the solo/duo farming is approved. The problem with permas is they used it to clear all of UW and kick everyone else out of Dhuum groups, so they brought the axe on themselves with lack of discretion.

isildorbiafra · Nov 30, 2009, 04:07 PM // 16:07

RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO the ecto price inflation. I suggest people counter it by inflating the price of items. Afther the SF nerf alot of items will be harder to come by. Shit; the price of Deldrimor Armor Remnants should sky rocket; as to with that of torment weapons; VS; EB; Obby Edge and any other rare once perma farmable item.

Come Januari i'll be spamming "WTS Deldrimor Armor Remant 100k each! 50 left PM me" LOL

Sarevok Thordin · Nov 30, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01

I just got all my ectos for 5.5k a piece, playing on desperate traders is le fun XD

Karate Jesus · Nov 30, 2009, 07:09 PM // 19:09

They'll probably jump to 7-8k for a while, but then people will just figure out new ways to do the same shit.

Tbh, don't worry about it. Buy ectos now, wait for the panic after the SF nerf, sell high, then watch the price fall again.

Welcome to GW.

Bob Slydell · Nov 30, 2009, 08:44 PM // 20:44

I hope Ectos to go up in price to 10k+. All trends die, but it seems like the SF community isn't ready to let this one die. Oh well...too bad and so sad.

† LãwLiþøþ™ † · Nov 30, 2009, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

Anything that is farmable will ALWAYS drop in price. So, those spending 600e on a Smite are just throwing their money away.

Hence, why smart people only buy new stuff to re-sell. If you buy to keep new items, you'll be leaking cash daily.

Pro tip of the day: If you bought to keep, dedicate it and sell it on. If not kiss goodbye to 400e+ as these mini's will fall in price within the space of a few months.

So the celestial minis and the magazine minigs should go up in price? Since there not farm able..?

Arkantos · Nov 30, 2009, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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Originally Posted by † LãwLiþøþ™ †

So the celestial minis and the magazine minigs should go up in price? Since there not farm able..?

As far as I know, unded ones are slowly raising in price, yeah. As each day goes by, more are being dedicated, none are being brought into the game, so they'll continue to rise as long as people are willing to pay for them.

FabioLyone · Nov 30, 2009, 11:01 PM // 23:01

I would love the 13k ecto to come back, how I miss the pre ursan days...

Zahr Dalsk · Nov 30, 2009, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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Originally Posted by nitetime

Well when they nerf SF, half the GW population will quit and ectos will become less expensive.

They will not. Y'see, they aren't playing Guild Wars to use SF, they're playing Guild Wars to max their titles and get lots of expensive items. SF is merely the current best way to do so, and so most of them are using it.

They'll keep working on the titles, though, and sooner or later there'll be a new build. Even right now, there are builds they can fall back to for a while, even if not nearly as potent as SF.

Titles are the root of this problem, not SF. In fact, titles aren't even the very core; the very core is having an economy at all, having visible rewards for effort. As long as there is something, anything, that people can show off to compensate for their own shortcomings - for example, back in Prophecies days, Obsidian armour - these particular, pathetic people will always work towards it.

This is why you've got everyone flocking to things like Shadow Form, Ursan, Balanced, and whatever was used before that. Only in a system with no earned rewards, will you avoid this.

tl;dr titles and item skins are what caused this whole mess, and as long as they're here the mess will stay

Kenzo Skunk · Dec 01, 2009, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by FabioLyone

I would love the 13k ecto to come back, how I miss the pre ursan days...

I miss the days when there was no loot scaling..